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Contest Discussion

cause the previews are toooo small

July 26 2010 2:42am

a larger preview for 5042

http://a.imageshack.us/img12/9751/inner05.jpg

badapple

July 25 2010 10:59pm

Thanks. the inking itself took about 2 hours. but from sketch to inks about 7 hours, most of the time was drawing thumbnail sketches to get the poses right . Workin on the shades right now. so far I have about 10 hours into it.

ajay2420 Contest Holder

Thank you everyone!!!

July 25 2010 10:28pm

I want to thank everyone for their time and patience these past couple of weeks and I've really enjoyed all the entries that were submitted. I especially enjoyed the comments....lol. I only wish the previews were a little bit bigger on this site so I can see the shadings and details better. My email is # if anyone wants to send a bigger picture of their artwork for me to see. Again thank you all for everything.

churchstreetslim

Ajay

July 25 2010 9:32pm

Sorry about the last minute entry. Life seemed to be conspiring against me getting this done. It was a lot of fun though. I haven't done as much figure drawing lately, so it was nice to blow the dust off a little. I would also be happy to email a bigger version if you want to scope it out a little more in depth.

Slim

Keish

July 25 2010 8:35pm

Love your wings

Intense people

July 25 2010 6:43pm

lol I wanna be part of the commenting fun.

heres a link to my current work in progress for anyone who would like to see. I really wish they would allow a larger preview for these large tattoo concepts where they want high detail.

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/4016/inner03.jpg

badapple

art n coffee

July 25 2010 4:17pm

nice lines on your drawing man! looks like u spent a fair amount of time on it. And way to go staying true to yourself and not selling your soul.... and we should always keep practising!

large scale scanner

July 25 2010 12:47pm

I drew my pic at true 14x18 size. I own the Mustek large scale flat bed scanner, has a scanning area of 11x17. worked great flipping the image once. It is inexpensive compared to other large scanners, any one thats really serious about art should have one. :D

July 25 2010 12:12pm

If you give me your email I will mail you a slightly bigger version so you can see it better, but watermarked still.

wip4

July 25 2010 9:44am

sorry about the crummy photo on WIP4. super light lines had to tweak the photo so you could see it.

Mud

July 25 2010 1:50am

Not so much throwing mud as being honest and not attacking them. Will help her grow and anyone else that reads this if they pay attention. It takes hard work to be able to do something from you head but thats what practice is for. If I cant do it from my head I dont do it. YES I do use reference sparingly. if I dont know what a leg muscle looks like Ill look up anatomy but I use it as reference and dont copy the whole thing. Lots of artists use reference, its just how you use it..

Kizen

July 24 2010 10:13pm

Copic markers are the BEST. I've only used them when the copic people had their displays at anime cons. They're so great.. but so pricey!

Art-n-coffee

July 24 2010 9:29pm

Thank you sooo much, I put it in my portfolio and will have a website up by the end of next week. I am sorry to you guys for ranting on and on here. You know how you might feel if you were in my shoes. And with that, I am done speaking on it. I just wanted to thank you for your comment. Wish everyone here only the best.

I am sorry

July 24 2010 8:50pm

I don't mean to throw mud either. Art-n-coffee, Badapple, you guys are very right. Artists should never try to justify themselves to others. I got wrapped up in being bitter and know better than that. In life, there will always be people speaking their mind (right or wrong we all have that right) and I am sorry to everyone that read my messages on here and thought "Man, he seems like an d^#&". Also, I wish everyone only the best. Take care and keep doing art, I hope you find your design AJAY. My artistic energy will no longer be wasted on words. I will relieve in my hand and eyes. By the way, have you guys used Copic markers yet? ONLY THE BEST EVER!

Ten times aye?

July 24 2010 8:38pm

I would be a fool to display my comic book art here. If you have a question of my talent, come down to comicon this august to my booth and see. Unlike you, I do make a living out of my art. My 8x10's got as low as $500. I have a liason with D.C comics and freelance the rest of the time. I did this to raise money for Childrens Miracle foundation. And for that matter, you guys should also check out the aerospace pin up and compare the body to the mermaid pin up someone has up. There is a difference between artists and graphic designers. My only beef was the fact that someone that doesn't draw from there mind at all trying to give pointers to someone that does. And as for the comment "ten times better", we are talking about you. Not any family member. I didn't go to school for art like others did, but I am still booked for five years. I must not be that bad huh Alissa? Don't sling mud, just mades you look ugly.

using reference

July 24 2010 10:07am

reference is one thing (looks similar but you change alot of it), out right copying is another (looks exactly the same with barely visible changes). Just because you are related to someone doesn't mean coping their work is anymore justified.

Things like this make it harder for artists who dont copy who really do put the effort into their work.

If you dont trace or "heavily reference" you will grow more as an artist then if you do..

So what

July 24 2010 9:38am

If i got my inspiration from a pose....actually I have a statue in my house that I used as a reference...My cusin does crafts made out of wax and clay and I help him with it sometimes. He does action figures and comic hero' s too. I happened to be related to Scott Campbell author of Danger Girl. His is ten times better than this one...might I add...I have a family full of comic heads and artists. I have a ton of statues I did myself also. Were all a talented family and everything in this world has been done before so its not like sooner or later someone will say wow, she's copying off this painting and yet I have never seen the painting....we all gather inspiration from different things. =)

Benne'

kizen

July 24 2010 7:51am

Id like to see a photo to see how it turned out. You surely got a photo for a tat that big, cant pass up something that like for a portfolio. It was a neat design

WIP

July 23 2010 8:32pm

I just posted up what I am currently working on. :) It's by no means finished, of course!

Funny story, right place right time.

July 23 2010 8:39am

I was at Fedex/Kinkos, using the big scanner to get my design size correct for this site. Ran into a client and he was looking for a tattoo like this one. Went and rented a chair here at a studio and he bought it and I put it on him. I figured since you have a design you seem to like and didn't have any comments or ratings for mine it wouldn't matter to you. I think designs have to speak to the person, mine didn't to you but to someone else ($750). No harm in anyones side. I hope you have found the one that speaks to you and an tattoo artists that makes it come to life for you. Good luck in the future and have a fantastic weekend.

July 22 2010 9:21pm

I hope you are still up for designs! I am aiming to try my hand at it!

tealover007: Ohh..I love the concept you got going here, I hope to see it fleshed out. Its awesome.

Ajay

July 22 2010 10:58am

Sorry, my last words got typoed. I was thinking of adding wings to the devil but...if I do so, the arm holding the spear will be covered up...If you don't mind this...I will proceed. Or we could do another option like little flying demon cherubs on the demons side to help fill in that space...It's up to you let me know...

I made the tags bigger just waiting for your response on the wings or yet (Empty Space) were trying to fill. could add skulls or whatever you would like...but as you said there is only three days left...so the sooner you get back to me...the sooner I can get back to work! lol =)

Benne'

Ajay

July 22 2010 10:26am

Issues......Hmmmmm I was thinking about adding a wing also..but, if I did so the art would be covered holding the spear....if you dont mind this I will proceed to com up with something....or...I could add something else that wouldn't take away from it...I dunno Like flying little demons or something....Let me know....as for the tags...Sure...I can make them bigger...it will help cover some space anyway...hehe. Keep me posted on the wing thing...or if yo want demons or something....Thanks again for all the feedback..

Benne'

WOW Badapple

July 21 2010 12:56pm

Hey thanks....I will be sending in my sketch...for feedback in 20min...taking a lunch break hehe.

Benne'

ajay2420 Contest Holder

good input,

July 21 2010 11:35am

Good ideas bad apple. I'm digging that view because that's exactly what I want it to represent, a torn soul. Also mixing the clouds with the fire will bring it out more. Why didn't I thnk of that? That's why I'm just a client and you all are the artist. Thanks for the input and thanks everybody.

badapple

benne

July 21 2010 8:32am

you should try mixing(blending) the clouds with the fire to bring the back ground together and make the pic a little more dynamic, and give a symbolism of a torn soul even more so than just angel and demon. I can sketch something up for u. figure if u can't beat em, join em!
By the way I love the character's and their positioning.
badapple

Ajay

July 20 2010 5:54pm

Will be sending you a preview hopefully by wed...or tomorrow.

Benne'

Ajay

July 19 2010 2:50pm

The new drawing with revisions is sick.....I love it...and hope you will too...I will be posting it near the end unless you want me to send you a quick preview before I start coloring. I reworked the clouds and added the tags...

Benne'

Sorry everyone.

July 19 2010 11:40am

I have to remember not to comment using my phone. It mirrors comments sent to this site and that's why there are soo many here. I will do it from my desktop. Best of luck everyone.

Kitzen

July 19 2010 11:36am

Thank you so much....sorry I am new here so I don't know the lingo quite yet. =) I will check those out. Thanks

Benne'

Benne'

July 19 2010 11:34am

I am glad I was wrong. I think of myself as being a good judge of character and felt no ill harm towards you. It just made me wonder why you would have said I traced anything.That's why I brought it up.
As for clouds, check out bings photos. They have some pretty amazing shots as you know. Wish you the best and good luck to everyone.

Benne'

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Kitzen....Or anyone

July 19 2010 10:29am

I really love what you did with your coulds....mine suck...do you think you can help me find a good guide. I just can't draw them.....=(

Benne'

Kitzen

July 19 2010 10:13am

You took me the wrong way...I meant tracing from your drawing...Looks like you did it in illustrator....I like it. I never put you down! I love your work. Sorry if you took me the wrong way...I cannot say anything bad about anyone...Were all so talented. Thanks for the complement in the first part. =) Hope this helps.

Benne'

That's a great concept for your tattoo Ajay

July 19 2010 7:45am

Diggin what you invision for your tattoo Ajay. Best of luck with getting what you want. There are alot of talented artist here to help it pop ya'know. God of war aye? I can dig it Benne'. Nice "Tracing" LOL! Just kidding. I have to admit, it made me mad that you would have tried to say I traced any of my art seeing that I have been drawing and illustrating professionally since high school. And have been a tattoo artist to boot for seven years. That is niether here or there right now. After all, you can't control what people try to say right? Just sad to see you try to put anyone down. And sorry everyone else for airing dirty lundry here (very sorry ajay2420).

ajay

July 17 2010 3:32pm

Got the tags..ok NP I hope you like the drawing...I am going to try to make the clouds better..I have a hard time with those but yes will add the tags and show you when its colored....I will keep you posted thank you for being so informative and putting up with this tedious process...

=)
Benne'

Here

July 17 2010 1:44pm

Is the final drawing revision. The next step is coloring or shading. I know its in black and white so im not going to add color. Let me know...

Benne'

haha

July 17 2010 10:34am

lol

ajay2420 Contest Holder

Benne'

July 17 2010 5:49am

Let's go with the bigger one. I want to see it after you add the clouds and fire. Also I know you're drawing my friend's tattoo(BigP) now so I understand the confusion posting comments between artwork. He had a laugh out of it too.

BigP

July 17 2010 4:53am

Hey, I gave you 2 options. I was imformed that the smaller the lines are on your body that the more in the future they will bleed out. I know you want a lot of detail so maybe making it a bit bigger will help...also It might be big on your back already. I am not sure but just take a look at the 2 options....obviously the bigger one will get cut off and the fire and clouds will be surrounding it. The smaller one will have fire and clouds also...I just wanted to show you a preview and see what you think.. Thanks. Let me know

Benne'

July 17 2010 3:58am

I made the changes and will be sending you a preview soon.

Benne'

ajay2420 Contest Holder

Okay

July 16 2010 1:51pm

Liking the fire add.... looking good. Roll with what you got now except make the chain normal looking like its hanging down. Thanks.

ajay

July 16 2010 12:21pm

No problem at all, just in the future when people start adding more work....everyone will appreciate it....I know your new at this so your going to have slack...=) well I have my new revision up...so keep me posted if im in the right direction....=)

Benne'

ajay2420 Contest Holder

okay

July 16 2010 11:27am

sorry about that.

Also

July 16 2010 10:40am

When you comment on peoples work could you do it in private...sorry to be so picky...but I like it when its done that way. =)

Benne'

Hey

July 16 2010 10:39am

I can make those changes for you easy fix and with the fire and clouds....you read my mind...I was already thinking of doing that...=) Should have a preview of my changes in 2hours.

Benne'

ajay2420 Contest Holder

Art-n-coffee

July 16 2010 9:23am

Here is the link to that picture of my back that we talked about earlier.... anybody else is welcome to see it so that they can have a picture of how I want it to be layed out. This tattoo is going to cover my whole back.

http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab41/ajay2420/Random Artwork/DSCN0274.jpg

ajay2420 Contest Holder

alissabennett179

July 16 2010 9:15am

Hey good drawing so far. Just a couple of things though. The demon on the right side should be holding the chain with his left hand and the spear should be in his right. Also, please get rid of the underwear. I mean I don't want them to be obsene or anything but maybe we can have each one coming out of something (angel coming out of some clouds and the demon coming out of fire.). Let's try that for now but keep the tail on the demon, great input. Didn't think of that before but I like it. You could have it coming out of the fire too, long and reptile like. The last thing is just have the dog tags like you had them in the first submission you did with both characters holding it from their sides and facing off. I know, I know.... I'm picky but I want it to be good. Let me know your thoughts.

badapple

got it

July 16 2010 7:47am

what was the inside info that art n coffe got? please share with us all, or am i missing something?

Hey

July 15 2010 9:50pm

Let me know if I am on the right track...Sorry its taking so long...this is what I have so far....be honest with me and let me know what you think....i'm working hard here...=) its my off week.

Benne'

ajay2420 Contest Holder

Art-n-coffee

July 15 2010 8:59pm

Got it. Expect to see it later on today.

ajay2420 Contest Holder

alissabennett179

July 15 2010 8:59pm

Okay, you're the artist here. I'll wait and see what you have so far and we'll make the changes later but I like the new rough sketch.

Append the description.

July 15 2010 3:29pm

you can add to your description. Upload the photo to photobucket, fliker (spelling?) or any image hosting site like that and just post the link here. You can even post it down here in the comment section.

Hey

July 14 2010 9:04am

I could use a reference but I have already started drawing it...if you want to put up a pic I suppose I would have to revamp what I have got going unless you would like to see what I have so far and its just the angel....

Benne'

ajay2420 Contest Holder

Art-n-coffee

July 14 2010 1:48am

I can get the photo but I've been looking around here and can't find any link here that shows how to upload a picture. Any ideas?

ajay2420 Contest Holder

alissabennett179

July 14 2010 1:46am

I like them now facing each other. However, try and not have the demon so far into the dog tags. Lets try having both characters pulling from their sides like how you got the angel doing now. Also, if I have a picture of how I want the angel and demon to look like can you draw off that too?

photo

July 13 2010 6:00pm

Would it be possible to get a nice photo of your back? To see your shape and muscle tone. Will help with the layout to properly fill the space. (everyone is shaped differently.)

Thanks

July 13 2010 11:11am

Ok great this helps out...now I'm going to work my magic!

Benne'

ajay2420 Contest Holder

update

July 13 2010 11:06am

Sorry for not being clearer earlier but I want them to be facing each other and pulling on the chain. I like the position of the dog tags but try to have it look like it's stretched out to the point of almost breaking. Sorry for being picky but I'm trying to make it as bad ass as possible for my whole back. I like it so far though.

ajay

July 13 2010 9:57am

this is a very rough rough sketch...how is the placement of the angel and demon...is it ok..or did you want them facing each other? Please let me know,

Benne'

ajay2420 Contest Holder

FYI

July 13 2010 12:56am

You're welcome on the detail. Also it might sound crazy but I actually got this website from my friend that you are currently doing the angels vs demon tattoo for. I've been watching your work this whole time and you've put up some pretty good designs. Good job.

Hey

July 12 2010 3:29pm

thanks for the detail...this really helps out....I am just finishing up the other current contest for the angel and demon..you should check it out....then i will be working on yours...

Benne'

http://#/contests/c/angel_vs_demon_16241

ajay2420 Contest Holder

More info....

July 12 2010 4:29am

Thanks for the quick reply alissabennett179. I want everything in my design to be realistic. The chain has to look like it's hanging on my back from my neck and both the angel and the demon fighting for it. The tags are going to say my name but we can fill in that later. Both the angel and the demon are going to be males. It's a kind of representation of my personality with the tags being me. Also I didn't say earlier because I forgot but I want both characters to have wings with the demon having reptile wings. If the wings are too much for the design we can always remove them later. Hit me up if you have any more questions and thanks again.